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Online Poker For Americans |
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Online Poker Rooms
Accepting American Players + Online Casinos Allowing USA Players |
Last Updated: October 18,
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 On Friday October 13th, 2006,
the United States put into law the Unlawful
Internet Gambling Enforcement Act. This act
attempts to stop Americans from playing online
poker by making it illegal for financial
institutions, such as banks and credit card
companies, to allow deposits to be made into any
gambling website.
This act has caused several major Internet poker rooms (PartyPoker, ParadisePoker, PacificPoker, PokerRoom, TitanPoker, MansionPoker, DoylesRoom, EmpirePoker, NoblePoker...) to no longer accept US citizens. Most of these poker rooms were owned by publically traded companies strongly influenced by American investors. Fortunately, many major online poker websites have chosen to continue to
accept American players. They can do this,
firstly, because poker is a game of skill and not
strictly a form of gambling, and secondly, because
they operate in jurisdictions outside of the
United States.
This site
only lists Internet poker rooms that still accept
US players. This guide is vital to any
serious American poker player who isn't willing to
give up his or her right to play poker; a
truly American pastime.
Poker Rooms Accepting Americans...
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#1
PokerStars.com (9.9)
Our highest rated site! PokerStars features a giant player base, excellent game play, as well as top notch customer service, banking, and security. PokerStars has always had the best tournaments in the industry, offering a massive variety of Sit & Go and Multi-Table tourneys around the clock. PokerStars used to have fairly tight (and generally very competitive) cash games, but thanks to the thousands of American players that have migrated over from PartyPoker in the past few months, the cash tables here are now filled with lots of fish giving away their money. PokerStars is happily accepting all USA citizens!!!
Top Features:
- VIP Program
- 100% First-Time Deposit Bonus
- $2.5 Million Freeroll (largest in history)
- "Sunday Million" $1,000,000 guarenteed NL tournament every Sunday
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#2 FullTiltPoker.com (9.7)
The growth of this site has exploded over the last year and it is now the favorite poker site of many players. FullTilt Poker advertises "Chat with the Pros - Play with the Pros - Learn from the Pros" and it's true! Several professional poker players (such as Phil Ivey, Jennifer Harman, Mike "The Mouth" Matusow, Chris Ferguson, Howard Lederer, etc.) actually take part in some of the tournaments & ring games here. FullTilt also offers insanely high stakes poker which can be a blast to watch (watching Phil Ivey school some donk at 300/600 NL is increadibly entertaining). FullTiltPoker welcomes all USA poker players!!!
Top Features:
- VIP Program
- $600 First-Time Deposit Bonus
- Mac Compatible
- Play with several Poker Pros
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AbsolutePoker.com (9.2)
AbsolutePoker is an excellent poker room for cash games. The tables here offer "juicy" action and are packed with wild players who seem to have no fear. The tournaments also contain wild and spuratic play - but this makes it tough to finish in the money consistently. A patient and disciplined player could make a fortune on this site - just stay away from the BlackJack tables offered here, they can be deadly on the bankroll (trust me on this one!) AbsolutePoker offers a fantastic 100% bonus up to $250 on your 1st deposit, and also offers 40 freerolls a day (plus a fair number of VIP freerolls). AbsolutePoker is accepting all American players!!!
Top Features:
- VIP Program
- $250 First-Time Deposit Bonus
- $250,000 Freeroll
- $100,000 guarenteed NL tournament every Saturday
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SportsBook.com/Poker (8.8)
SportsBook Poker is extremely devoted to USA poker players - infact, they are so dedicated to USA poker that they only allow American players! The reason most players choose to play here is because they can successfully deposit with their USA credit cards (your US issued Mastercard or VISA credit card probably won't work at 90% of online poker rooms, but it'll more than likely work here at Sportsbook.com Poker!). This isn't the only perk of playing here, however, they also offer players a 100% deposit bonus, and they are hosting a massive $100,000 freeroll very soon!
Top Features:
- USA Credit Cards Actually Work Here
- $100,000 Freeroll
- Focused on American Players
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UltimateBet.com (8.5)
UltimateBet is one of the oldest and most reliable poker sites on the net. This site has a wide selection of great cash games and exciting tournaments. The players here are fairly good, but at the higher level games there is a surprising number of fish. Ultimate Bet is generally geared towards mid to high stakes players, and is not recommended for beginner or low stakes poker players. If you want to play 1/2 NL or 3/6 Limit or higher, this site is for you! UltimateBet is open for business as usual & aggressively targeting American players!!!
Top Features:
- VIP Program
- 100% Deposit Bonus
- $200,000 guarenteed NL tournament every Sunday
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Online Casinos Accepting Americans...
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GoldenCasino.com (9.8)
Online since 1997, Golden Palace Casino is one of the oldest, largest and most reputable online casinos on the net. The casino has dazzled and pulled in millions of casino players over the years. If you’ve ever seen a streaker at a major sporting event, chances are it was a publicity stunt for GoldenPalace Casino. Renowned for their media spectacles, Golden Palace Casino has purchased several wild items on eBay for rediculous prices, such as the Virgin Mary grilled cheese sandwich purchase for $28,000 - or the Pope’s former Volkswagen which GoldenPalace Casino sent on an around the World tour. If the reputation pulls them in, the excellent games, high payouts and VIP rewards keep them coming back to for more! After downloading the exceptional Playtech software, real-money players can qualify for the $555 sign-up bonus and participate in a number of bonus and reward programs. Choose from over 80 exciting games and try your hand at the largest online jackpot slot machine with a massive $6 million jackpot! Golden Casino offers Blackjack, Roulette, Sic Bo, Vide Poker, and Baccarat live dealers. Golden Casino also offers a multi-lingual platform with multi-currency support. GoldenCasino's 24 hour live help and toll-free telephone support are absolutely top notch. GoldenCasino also has mobile software that allows you to experience the same wild excitement on your cell phone or PDA.
Golden Casino is accepting all US citizens!!!
Games Offered:
- BlackJack
- Roulette
- Slot Machines
- Baccarat
- Video Poker
- Craps
- Keno
- Casino War
- Caribbean Poker
- Dozens others...
VISIT GOLDENPALACE NOW
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Online wagering is illegal in some jurisdictions, please check all local laws before entering any of the casinos and poker rooms listed on this site.
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USA Poker Deposit Methods
Some US residents have been experiencing difficulties trying to fund their online poker accounts! Even though several popular gambling e-wallets such Neteller & MoneyBookers no longer allow Americans - there are still a number of top notch deposit methods that work for USA poker players! For a list of US poker payment methods & which USA poker rooms accept each purchase option please visit: Poker Deposit Methods.
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Random ramblings about poker for americans
In early October the Federal Reserve as well as Department of Treasury released their joint proposal for rules to implement for the Unlawful Internet Gaming Enforcement Act. While the proposed rules clarify some of the enforcement requirements for the UIGEA, those looking for black and white answers may be left extremely confused after reading the massive 52 page document. Industry experts have examined the document and find it to be extremely vague and full of holes - it is looking like the Bush government screwed this thing up big time and it will never have a major effect on Internet gambling! Also in October, a Brussels based legal team has accused the US government of reneging on commitments made to the World Trade Organisation (WTO) over Internet gaming. Lately there has been harsh criticism again the USA's rediculous war on Internet gaming and many believe that the US could be liable for up to US$100 billion in trade concessions to European industries after placing illegal and absurd discriminatory trade restrictions on European online poker operators.
I requested a cashout from Golden Palace Poker in FEBUARY right after they banned US players! They keep jerking me around, finally they paid me. In the mean time I have been using Visa Gift cards to deposit at online poker rooms such as Full Tilt! Walgreen's here started selling them again after about a 2 month hiatus, picked a $100 one up tonight and deposited to pstars with it in seconds. Good news. These are the yellow Visa Gift Cards at Walgreens.
I'm bad at the search function and someone has Poker Stars.de probably already talked about it, but are pokerstars bank wire cashouts working in a timely fashion for americans right now? Should I get a check instead? Or one of those prepaid visa thingies? There are only so many online poker rooms that allow both USA players and 900 pay as a deposit method. 900pay casinos and 900pay poker sites are, unfortunately, very rare! Citadel Commerce is another great deposit method, unfortunately they do not allow USA players either. Bank Drafts are one of the easiest ways for a USA gambler to deposit into online casinos and online poker rooms - along with eWalletXpress, ePassporte, PaySpark, Moneybookers, American Express, Nexum, PayTru & OnDemand Funds. As an American I have also used NetPay and PaySafe Card, along with 1Pay and CentralCoin (which no longer allows Americans). Bugsys club is a little known USA poker room, but it is very small and fairly sketchy so I would not recommend it to USA poker players!
Some drunken ramblings of an American poker player? It's 4am and this is what is going through my head right now poker for Americans I'm VERY upset with everything going on related to USA online poker. First of all - why did DoylesRoom decided to stop allowing US citizens at their poker room. There was that rumour about Doyle Brunson being arrested, but that turned out to be completely false. Even still, a few weeks ago DoylesRoom (and the whole Doyle Brunson Poker Network) stopped allowing American poker players - all Doyles Room poker accounts were tranfered over to Full Tilt Poker. Fore more info on American deposit methods visit: Neteller Alternatives!!! FullTilt Poker is now growing by leaps and bounds - they just came out with a new USA payment processor too, and it looks awesome! Poker Site for USA contains information on how to play poker USA. American poker players should not stop playing online poker because Bill Frist & George Bush and the US government and trying to bully the US banks. Horse betting online is still legal! Why? Why does Vegas still exist if gambling is evil? Simple - because money talks and major US corporations such as Harahs Entertainment are spending millions lobbying the government to exterminate online poker so in 2010 (or maybe even later) they can attempt to launch their own online poker brands.
Is Mansion Poker closed to USA poker rooms? Why can Doyles room still operate? Will USA banks stop allowing Neteller transations?
1. Is poker for Americans illegal poker for americans play online poker in the United States?
The bill which recently passed addressed deposit methods poker for usa financial institutions (banks) that allow gambling transactions. texas holdem illegal in usa new law makes poker for Americans illegal for US banks to allow gambling related transactions so the actual legality of online poker has not changed.
Neteller cashouts to Bank of America?
I've already heard that after Online Pocker being slapped with tons of fines, Bank Of America has stopped sending money out to neteller accounts. In addition I've heard they are about to freeze out epassporte with the recent influx of deposits.
My question, has anyone received an EFT cashout from neteller to Bank of America lately? I have one in que and am wondering if I should just cancel the cashout and do poker for Americans via the neteller ATM card instead - especially if BofA is just going to decline the cashout anyway!
2. Why did PartyPoker and other sites close down poker for usa yet some sites are still open poker for americans the US?
Most of texas holdem illegal in usa sites that closed down when the bill was signed were the publicly traded companies. They closed down to US players poker for americans protect themselves from getting sued by their shareholders. Places like PokerStars.com are privately held companies poker room allowing usa players and they have addressed the law differently Online Poker Bonus poker for usa is why they stayed open. They also believe poker is a skill game so they believe their sites aren't classified as "Unlawful". Every site has different interpretations of texas holdem illegal in usa law.
Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act also called the While most of the companies involved with online gaming are based beyond the borders of the US the second they transact in any way with a US resident (who is physically in the US) they have just made themselves subject to US law. This is a common misperception raised in the age of the internet but most courts have ruled that any transaction will occur in the state the seller is in as well as the state that the buyer is in. If Amazon wished to sell books to California residents it can’t simply ignore California consumer laws because it’s located in Washington.
the UK government has already came out calling this bullshit. There's a post about poker for Americans on 2+2 with quotes from UK officials.
It looks like someone may step up and try to stop these crazy fcking lunatics.
The UK government made a comment about this starting to sour their relationship with the US.
Remember, Toney Blair was about the only m'fcker who stood by Dubya during the invasion of Iraq. Looks like our only friend has had enough.
3. So what is the deal now? Is poker banned or not? Prohibition doesn’t work
People are still playing online poker and we are in somewhat of a grace period. The US government has 270 days from the time the bill was signed (Oct 13, 2006) to issue requirements for US banks poker for usa payment providers. Places like Neteller have already stopped serving US gambling transactions after their 2 co-founders were arrested.
It seems there is so much talk about Click2pay, Epassporte, and other payment processors. poker for Americans optimistic as I am trying Online Poker Guide to be here, I tend to think these may be short term band-aids to what is shaping up to be an all out prohibition of online gaming to Americans.
So the question becomes, Where do you think this industry will be in 6 months? How about an EcoCard - they are used by a lot of referback casinos!
Regardless how you get money loaded onto a site, at some point poker for Americans has to to come out of your bank account. In my opinion the U.S. government will not allow another processor to simply just step in and replace Neteller. They will pursue the owners of these companies just like they did the guys at Neteller.
What happens if in the coming weeks epassporte and click2pay pull out of the U.S. market all together? What business person in their right mind would want to form a start-up right now specifically to handle payment processing for online gambling sites and U.S. citizens? That's like guaranteeing yourself an indictment.
I certainly hope one of Online Poker Reviews these companies can seamlessly replace Neteller, I really do, but I just don't see the long term sustainability of any payment processor in this industry that openly processes U.S. citizens money into gaming sites.
The reality is that we can keep our fingers crossed, but as affiliates or even players for that matter we better mentally prepare and have a contingency plan in the event that there is an all out prohibition.
Share your thoughts on where you see the industry in 6 months poker rooms allowing Americans
I've been cashout out regularly from Party to my TD VISA US currency card since Jan. I did it about 4 times for at 5K each and each time the 5 K would show up as a positive balance when I check with online banking. Once it shows up, I would call VISA and request a cheque or a transfer to my main bank acct. 2 weeks ago , I made another cash out for a little over 5K and the money showed up again as a positive balance so I call VISA and request a transfer. A week or so later, it still doesn't show up in my bank acct so I call them and they tell me to wait 2 business days. Then a couple of hours after getting off the phone, I get a call from VISA saying that the money will not be transfered because it was obtained from online gambling. She says I can make purchases on the card or go to my bank and ask for cash advance but she won't make the transfer. So this morning I go to TD and ask for cash advance, bank teller didn't know what to do so she calls VISA and then after 15 min she comes back and asks me where the money was from. I tell her from online gambling and she gets back on the phone and then after another few minutes, she tells me to call VISA in aweek because they are looking into things because the money is from online gambling. AFAIK, there is no law against financial institutions completing transactions with online gambling sites. Am I wrong? I mean, I'm pretty sure that I could still make a deposit using the credit card if I wanted to and if so, how can they accept the deposit but refuse giving me my money? In order to cash out from Bodog they want a form saying I'm not going to charge back to my card, about 15 sorts of ID, a rubbing of my credit card (?) and so on. So far, so standard (if more than most places).
However, they will apparently only accept this via fax, not emailed scans, allegedly for 'security'. Given that this involves sending a huge multi page fax to an international number (I'm not in the States), this is going to cost lots of money (for me...). I'm therefore not particularly happy about this, given it seems to be them justing making life as difficult as possible for no good reason.
I've asked about sending scans and have received contradictory answers from their CS. Has anyone here had any luck in this area?
Doyles Room no longer accepts USA poker players.
We have discussed in past months the fact that the individual states are able to license and regulate online poker within their boundaries, as long poker for Americans they bar residents of other states from playing. And that this wasn't a right granted to them by the UIGEA, but rather Online Pokr one that they possessed which the federal government even under its broadly interpreted Commerce Clause authority, couldn't take away. The UIGEA only made poker for Americans clear that the states or Indian reservations could not allow non-residents to play on such a state/reservation platform.
So for example, the state of New York can license and regulate and thus legalize online poker for its residents. poker for Americans presumably can even do so in a monopolistic fashion as is done with lotteries. And it could presumably license an existing online site like party poker to do so, though possibly they would have to maintain their servers for same within state boundaries. Of course except for the largest states, the player pools might not be very attractive in size for a single state, though perhaps that wouldn't be true even in smaller ones if online poker was totally legal. Nonetheless, poker room accepting Americans is a consideration and likely shortcoming.
Not back to those lotteries. We all know that there are multi-state lotto pools, often (always?) apparently the result of interstate compacts, and which compacts like all such ones apparently needing to be given the assent of congress (is that correct?). So the question is can the states form a compact and run multi-state online poker sites, where the licensed entity running same Play Poker like a Pro basically gives rakeback to the participating states on a proportional basis? And would the UIGEA need to be modified in order to do so, or would congress ratifying such a compact overide any such considerations?
Mansion Poker no longer accepts American poker players.
Not sure if I should put this in A/R or here, gonna go with this one, if mods want to move I'll trust your judgement.
Title says it all, what's the legality of being an affliate for a poker room or any gambling site after the bill? I remember some type of language in the bill going something like "In the business of accepting wagers..." or something to that effect, and not Evrest Poker sure if that would include affliates or not. I mean, aflliates are by definiton, affliated with those businesses.
Thanks in advance.
Have a decent amount in sportsbook.com and want to cash about 3/4 of it out. I just read the entire WSEX v. Sportsbook.com thread and it alluded to slow cashouts and one post said that no one has been able to cash out recently. Can anyone verify this? Has anyone has success recently getting money off of sportsbook.com? Is this the best method of poker for Canadians now that Neteller does not allow Canadians?
I'm in the US so Neteller is out.
Please post experiences, good or bad, about cashing out of sportsbook.com in the past couple months.
Thanks!
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Re: Legality of being an affliate post-UIGEA [Re: ShakeZula06]
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I've seen this question asked a few times now since the bill passed. I have yet to see a straight answer from somebody that really knew what they were talking about but I did hear from a few credible sources that they believed that if you were a US citizen promoting non-US sites, then that wasn't illegal since you aren't really breaking any laws (you aren't servicing Americans and you aren't breaking any laws of the country the site is located in).
Personally, I wouldn't worry about it until you started hearing of affiliates getting arrested. To my knowledge, there hasn't been any poker affiliates arrested to date.
We'll see....
Thus again using party poker Casino For Americans as the licened primary site, and assuming the above was legal, a group of many or indeed all states licenses party poker to conduct online poker within the US, thus barring foreign players (since the gov't likes to ignore WTO considerations we will too for this example). But in order to foster competition, which domestic gaming companies would no doubt demand, a skin system is implemented. Any licensed gaming company like Harrahs could operate a skin through the primary licensee who ran the whole thing. And of course if the primary licensee didn't do a good job, they could be replaced by a skin, who then became the primary licensee.
DoylesRoom no longer allows USA players. I repeat, DoylesRoom.com no longer allows American residents or USA citizens. They announced this today and will be tranfering all Doyles Room accounts over to FullTilt Poker if you so choose. Doyles Room is on the Doyles Poker Network, and is following Pamela Poker.
Apologies if this has been posted already... online poker is illegal, that is simply not true!!!
DoylesRoom.com, one of the most popular poker
sites on the internet, today announced that it will close its US-facing
operations. Online poker is still legal!
Does anyone know if there is any truth at all to the rumor that the "Ipoker" network (Titan Poker, Noble Poker,Ocean Poker,Betfred Poker,CD Poker, etc...) will once again allow US residents to play at their cardrooms? I heard about this on another forum Sunday night.
The recently passed Unlawful Internet Gambling Enforcement Act (UIGEA)
and closures by payment processors were cited as the reasons for the
surprise move. With immediate effect, US online poker players will not
be permitted to sign up for real money play or deposit funds into
existing accounts. DoylesRoom.com will not permit US-based play
commencing 1 March, 2007.
Turkey banned online poker!
Turkey to stop online gambling Full Tilt Iron Man Promotion. Poker Players Alliance - For years, Alfonse M. D’Amato, the former Republican senator from New York, was the host at a Thursday evening poker game at his Capitol Hill office, playing with other lawmakers, staff Online Pocker members and lobbyists late into the night over pots that ranged from a few dollars to a few hundred.
Once New Yorkers collectively informed Mr. D’Amato that it was time to find a new line of work, he graduated to a higher-stakes game, playing with Howard Stern, among others. He is now a stalwart of a weekly game on Long Island where a bad night might mean that a player drops $5,000 or more.
Leading Turkish newspapers have been reporting that a law which has been meant to protect children online and stop indecent broadcastings, have been extended to reach online gambling, as well. The method which will be used is to block requests for websites on ISP level, which the government of the country deems inappropriate and harmful to its citizens.
Turkey has been trying really hard to become a member of the European Union, and with more countries in Europe legalizing online gambling, this will not help them at all, especially while the European Trade Commission is really pushing hard for E.U. wide legalizing of online gambling sites. This also could be seen as a move by the religious part of the country to enforce "spiritual laws" into the everyday life of the citizens, as the Koran prohibits gambling in all forms.
As many of you know, some posters don't appreciate my efforts to keep the focus on the shortcomings of the PPA until they, *as promised*, come back here to discuss same with us. I do this not try to drag them down, because I support legalizing online poker. But I think Australia Poker it very important that the PPA represent all its members interests
The Poker Players Association is very good, and you can get a free membership too! PokerStars is offering special PPA freerolls, and FullTilt Poker is offering a special PPA bonus structure!
DoylesRoom.com will continue serving non-US players and will increase
its focus on Canada, Europe and Asia-Pacific. Poker Taxes are a complex issue - how do Americans pay taxes on their poker winnings if the money is stuck in Neteller. Can you be taxed on money you have never received. Lets just call it the Poker Tax haha.
We finally found an online poker room where American credit cards will work. While PayPal does not work at any online poker room - you can use your credit card to deposit at SportsBook.com Poker!
Commenting today, a spokesperson said: "In view of the passage of the
UIGEA and the cessation of operations by Neteller and other payment
processors, the management of DoylesRoom.com has reluctantly decided not
to permit online real money play by US-based players at DoylesRoom.com".
This stinks, I play on GPP but would love for the same deal to go down, but I know that it won't.
I have over 1,200,000 action points, i just cashed in 2million in October for a whole 1000.00 in gift certificates (what a friggin ripoff).
I could get $4800 by cashing in 1 million action points if i was in doyles room and migrating to FTP?
Dear DoylesRoom Player,
This email is intended solely for US-based players at DoylesRoom.com. Please ignore this communication if you are based in any other country when playing poker at DoylesRoom.com.
In view of the passage of the Unlawful Internet Gaming Enforcement Act (“UIGEA”) and the cessation of operations by Neteller and other payment processors, the management of the Doyle Brunson Poker Network (“DBPN”) has reluctantly decided not to permit online real money play by USA-based players at DoylesRoom.com.
We know this will come as a disappointment to you but we have taken the view that the most prudent course of action is to conduct an orderly withdrawal from the United States Market.
Effective immediately, USA online poker players will not be permitted to sign up for real money play or deposit funds into existing accounts. Commencing March 1, 2007 all US play on DoylesRoom.com will be blocked and USA players will be able to access only the cashier page.
You may withdraw your funds at any time or, should you wish to enjoy uninterrupted play, we are pleased to announce the Full Tilt Poker has agreed to honor your account balance and action points. This account transfer option will be simple, immediate, allow you to maintain your action points and take advantage of Full Tilt’s wide range of fames and tournaments. The transfer feature will be Montreal Poker available to USA customers within 24 hours. For more details log in the Client Software and click on CASHIER / DEPOSIT / DEPOSIT (at the top of the page).
We ask that players wishing to withdraw their funds be patient. DBPN assures all its players that their funds are safe but in view of the likely demands on processing staff in the forthcoming weeks, cash outs may take a little longer than usual to process.
Doyles Room will continue to serve non-US players and will re- focus on Canada, Europe and Asia-Pacific.
If the above scheme was legal, poker room accepting Americans would be tantamount to a carve-out, except of course for players in states unwilling to join. So the question again is, will that fly legally?
After reviewing the financials of the PPA poker room accepting Americans becomes very clear that they in no way have the money they need to win the battle they are fighting. The first question that popped into my mind was why the big pokersites-- Stars, Tilt, UB & Bodog-- have not given huge financial donations(in the millions) to the PPA. Afterall the PPA is fighting to keep the extremely lucratve US market open for them and the sites themselves are cash rich racking in hundreds of thousands a day. I could only come up with two answers that made any sense: 1. The sites know it is a losing battle so why throw a load of money into a fight that cannot be won, and 2. The sites do not trust the PPA. I think either one of these makes sense or perhaps poker room allowing Americans is a combination of the two. What do you think?
An EFT is an Electronic Funds Transfer. As the name implies the transfer takes place via electronic means. Funds are transferred between banks via a very regulated and tightly controlled network. All that is needed to completely block EFTmtransactions from gaming sites or to eWallets who deal with gaming sites is to add a single field to the existing electronic interface.
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Arg, I wrote a long post in the "new" forums and now it's gone.
Anyway, I wanted to try to assemble a thread that summarizes current US funding options, primarily regarding Stars & Tilt.
Please add to or correct this.
--- Cashouts :
Checks : generally the cleanest way to cash out, no fees, 7-20 days.
Visa debit card : you can cash out to payTru or ePassporte and use a visa debit card to make purchases or withdraw from an ATM. There are large fees associated with this but some people may like the convenience.
Wire Transfers : reportedly very slow at the moment
--- Deposits :
ePassporte : it takes 7-20 days to set up a connection to your bank, but once it's set up transfers are very fast. The fee is 5% . If you get a debit card there's an additional $30 plus other fees.
payTru visa debit : this is the new option Stars is pushing. You can cash in instantly and transfer to stars. Loading is a 4% fee. WARNING : loading from your credit card may also cause a cash advance fee on your credit card depending on your card. If you keep any balance or use it for withdrawals there are lots of other fees; Stars recommends using them only for loading.
MoneyGram : fast option for stars once you go to a MoneyGram location in person. $9.95 flat fee up to $2500 makes this a low-cost option for big loads.
Visa Gift Cards : apparently the "Gift2Go" (aka "IDT") visa gift card available at Walgreens works for loading. The fee is $6 for a $250 card which is 2.4% ; WARNING : purchasing with your credit card may count as a cash advance.
Other VISA/debit cards : some ordinary visa check or debit cards will also work, it's up to the visa issuer whether they refuse or not. Calling your issuer may help. Apparently people have good luck with this using cards from small local banks. Cards tied to a checking account are available for a 0% fee which makes this the very best option if you have it.
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I got an e-mail from neteller saying that they were unable to withdraw funds from my bank account (that they had already allowed me to transfer to a poker site). Although I requested the funds be taken from my bank over a week before they closed to US cunstomers, they failed to do poker room allowing Americans in time, and now are trying to get me to send them a money order "ASAP". What can they do if I don't comply? I never agreed to do anything of the sort, and it's their fault for not taking the money from my bank like they had done hundreds of times in the past. Any idea what they can do legally? I would call them and assure them that their money is safe and they can access their money through available withdrawal options. I would then inform them that unfortunately EFT are on hold at this time and that ATM cards cannot be loaded but their money is safe and they can withdraw when more options are available. Ask for several forms of ID and let them know poker room allowing Americans could take from 2 to 12 weeks.
4. Am I going poker for americans jail if I play online poker? US Justice Department has attempted to seize funds from the third party payment processor NETeller nearly three weeks after the arrests of the company's founders. Only US customers appear to be impacted
Again, this bill is attacking texas holdem illegal in usa root of the online poker industry, the deposit mechanisms. No laws have changed for online poker players. poker room allowing Americans was always a grey area before this law and remains the same. Some states have had laws against online gaming for years.
well, poker room allowing Americans does look rough right now, but one thing to remember if you've been in this business for a long time, and when I say long time, I mean 10 years. YouTeller isn't bad, nuCharge is OK, wirecard is available but so is MyWebATM so who really knows what is going on with eWalletXpress or others.
In 1998, Janet Reno had her little war on online gambling. She indicted a good number of people.
The most famous part of that time period was the story about the guys from WSEX.com
All three founders were indicted on bookmaking charges. One came back to the US to fight poker room allowing Americans (Jay Cohen) and he lost. Went to jail for a year and a half. After getting out, he went right back to work for wsex and just hasn't returned to the US since.
We all know the fate of online bookmakers after the US actually put people in jail.....
To answer your question about who in their right mind would open a processor???? A ton of people would, I can promise that.
Now, whether those processors are any good, trustworthy, etc I'm not sure. There will be people who will process your money, I think, but whether the masses will have the balls to use them or not I'm not sure. I know the banks will be tough, but they can't stop poker room allowing Americans either. The banking lobby has already said that.
Guys like Calvin Arye have known from day 1 he is a wanted man in the US. poker room allowing Americans didn't take the internet gambling bill for that to happen. Calvin's been talking about how wanted he is in the US for years. We've all seen the Fortune magazine cover he did last spring that was title "Catch Me if You Can!"
Thank God there are people out there that will tell the US Government to go Fck themselves.
The Betonsports guys are Poker Players Place not the first ones to be arrested. It's all the noobs in the business who think that.
People have been tossed in the slammer before, people will get tossed in the slammer today, and people will get tossed in the slammer in the future......but I still believe this business will go on. If you can't stand the heat, get out the kitchen.
5. Why are some states not accepted at certain online casinos poker for usa poker rooms?
The reason some operators have excluded certain sites and not texas holdem illegal in usa whole US population is because they are interpreting the law differently. The law addresses "Unlawful Internet Gambling." This means that the casino believes texas holdem illegal in usa states that had pre-existing law regarding online gambling are the states affected by this new law.
You are right mike, that is what the bill hopes to accomplish, but that's also what the banking industry said they don't think they could do. They're not in the business of continually monitoring for online gaming transactions.
What they are required to do and what they will actually be able to do probably won't be known until the end of 2007.
It should be noted that poker room allowing Americans took Bodog all of 1 day to post a new deposit method on their site....nucharge.com
Don't know anything about NU, but a few people have posted on other forums that they've already used it.
The good news about this is poker room allowing Americans looks like bodog is looking for other ways to get money from players and not saying "fck it, let's pull out of the US."
6. Why would Neteller, myCitadel, Firepay poker for usa other 3rd party transaction sites even think about closing to US gamblers?
The text book answer is that they are a publicly traded company. But there is much more poker for americans poker room allowing Americans than that. Lets take Neteller for example. If online poker ban US government feels Neteller is used for illegal gambling transactions then the US government will simply stop all banks from making transactions with Neteller whether mac online poker or other poker room allowing Americans be for gambling or not. These ewallets also went into contracts with certain gambling portals which allow sports bets to be placed among US citizens. This is against US law and is one reason the Neteller co-founders were detained. That is what's scaring a lot of these ewallet providers poker for americans back out without a shadow of a doubt.
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